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codemonkey812
07-05-2012, 11:53 AM
I would like to add an algae scrubber to my setup (75g reef), and like the UAS design. My problem is my sump is made from a 20g Rubbermaid container, so I am concerned I might melt it if I try to shine a light though it. Can the UAS be in the middle of the sump, and how do I light it? Or should I just do a traditional waterfall setup? My space is very limited, so if I do a waterfall it would be single sided.

The attached pictures are old, I have a skimmer where the green stuff is.

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Thank you all.

SantaMonica
07-05-2012, 12:25 PM
Probably wouldn't want to shine it through the plastic. Could try shining it down. Clip-on CFL's, on on each side of the screen.

codemonkey812
07-05-2012, 12:45 PM
What size screen would you recommend (the water is about 6" deep)?

SantaMonica
07-05-2012, 01:00 PM
Feeding?

codemonkey812
07-05-2012, 01:04 PM
About one cube a day (I alternate between feeding flake and frozen).

SantaMonica
07-05-2012, 01:07 PM
Scrubbers are now sized according to feeding. Nutrients "in" (feeding) must equal nutrients "out" (scrubber growth), no matter how many gallons you have. So...

An example VERTICAL waterfall screen size is 3 X 4 inches = 12 square inches of screen (7.5 X 10 cm = 75 sq cm) with a total of 12 real watts (not equivalent) of fluorescent light for 18 hours a day. If all 12 watts are on one side, it is a 1-sided screen. If 6 watts are on each side, it is a 2-sided screen, but the total is still 12 watts for 18 hours a day. This screen size and wattage should be able to handle the following amounts of daily feeding:

1 frozen cube per day (2-sided screen), or
1/2 frozen cube per day (1-sided screen), or
10 pinches of flake food per day (2-sided screen), or
5 pinches of flake food per day (1-sided screen), or
10 square inches (60 sq cm) of nori per day (2-sided screen), or
5 square inches (30 sq cm) of nori per day (1-sided screen), or
0.1 dry ounce (2.8 grams) of pellet food per day (2-sided screen), or
0.05 dry ounce (1.4 grams) of pellet food per day (1-sided screen)

High-wattage technique: Double the wattage, and cut the hours in half (to 9 per day). This will get brown screens to grow green much faster. Thus the example above would be 12 watts on each side, for a total of 24 watts, but for only 9 hours per day. If growth starts to turn YELLOW, then increase the flow, or add iron, or reduce the number of hours. And since the bulbs are operating for 9 hours instead of 18, they will last 6 months instead of 3 months.

HORIZONTAL screens: Multiply the screen size by 4, and the wattage by 1.5Flow is 24 hours, and is at least 35 gph per inch of width of screen [60 lph per cm], EVEN IF one sided or horizontal.

Very rough screen made of roughed-up-like-a-cactus plastic canvas.

Clean algae off of screen every 7 to 14 days, so that you can see the white screen material.

codemonkey812
07-05-2012, 01:30 PM
If I used two 24 watt CFL floods (one on each side) would that be enough? And being they are floods light would I need a reflector?

SantaMonica
07-05-2012, 04:37 PM
Probably only half the light would reach the screen without reflectors. And you are still going to have a lot of stray light and growth in the sump.

codemonkey812
07-06-2012, 06:00 AM
So to recap I will have a 3 x 4 screen mounted to the bottom of my sump with air stones (will a flexible bubble tube work?) and two 24 watt spot lights (one on each side).

SantaMonica
07-06-2012, 09:57 AM
Make the screen 5 X 5 so as to be able to catch the light. Flexible sliced airline tube will work if you do it right.