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ShanGo
08-06-2009, 03:25 PM
will upgrade as i go along watch this space

ShanGo
08-07-2009, 08:57 AM
9 x 24watt PLL-L

ShanGo
08-07-2009, 10:52 AM
this is the box

SantaMonica
08-07-2009, 05:35 PM
interesting so far

CHOMPERS
08-07-2009, 07:15 PM
tagging along. Should be an interesting build.

ShanGo
08-14-2009, 09:09 AM
this is how it looks fiberglass

ShanGo
08-14-2009, 09:17 AM
how is it looking

ShanGo
08-14-2009, 09:22 AM
here is the top view

SantaMonica
08-14-2009, 10:00 AM
Are you going to put a fan and a ventilation hole?

ShanGo
08-14-2009, 11:52 AM
Are you going to put a fan and a ventilation hole?
yes i am not finished yet :D

SantaMonica
08-14-2009, 01:13 PM
Of course if you don't want evaporation or cooling, you won't need one. That would also help keep the light from leaking out.

ShanGo
08-16-2009, 09:26 AM
tomorrow will post the finish version of the fiberglass

ShanGo
08-18-2009, 10:39 AM
this is the finish version

ShanGo
08-18-2009, 10:41 AM
hopefully i will get the glass cut tomorrow and will be adding that

kcress
08-18-2009, 12:03 PM
Glass?

ShanGo
08-18-2009, 12:04 PM
so the lamps dont get wet

ShanGo
08-18-2009, 12:04 PM
so the lamps dont get wet
there is 9 of them

kcress
08-19-2009, 03:20 AM
Ah! Ok I see that in your drawing. I was actually thinking fiber glass and was confused since it already looks fiber glassed.

ShanGo
08-23-2009, 11:02 AM
have to rethink as i cant get my hand in to glue glass so going to make 2 perpex box for the screens and lamps go in box so when i need to change lamps i take
out the perpex box

kcress
08-23-2009, 11:47 AM
Remember too that the glass facing the screen will get wet and will need to be cleaned. If you can't reach that surface you will have a problem.

ShanGo
08-23-2009, 02:17 PM
Remember too that the glass facing the screen will get wet and will need to be cleaned. If you can't reach that surface you will have a problem.
thats y i am changing abit as i have 3in of space in the perpex box easy to clean and easy to replace lamps
as i will take the perpex box out :D

kcress
08-23-2009, 02:42 PM
So the acrylic box will have it's outer face facing the water and will be easy to clean once it's removed. Great!

ShanGo
08-24-2009, 09:23 AM
So the acrylic box will have it's outer face facing the water and will be easy to clean once it's removed. Great!
Was going to do it the other way put the screens in the perpex box then when i clean the screens i clean the box what do you think

kcress
08-24-2009, 01:24 PM
I think your latter scheme is much better as you don't have to mess with the lights each time.

ShanGo
09-14-2009, 01:47 PM
Had to do some mod on the box as i could not glue the glass in place as soon as i get the rest i will post it so you can see :)

ShanGo
09-18-2009, 10:56 AM
this is what i was waiting on any comments plz let me know i will start building it tomorrow ;)

kcress
09-18-2009, 11:54 AM
So let me try to get this straight..
You are going to glue in the glass boxes?
The screens hang in the glass boxes?
How does the water get out of the glass boxes? Out thru the holes in the bottom? How do you seal the glass holes to the fiberglass box holes in a functional dependable manner?

How do you get your hand into the inside of the glass boxes to clean their soon to be fouled :mrgreen: inside faces?

You are also going add more acrylic boxes to hold the lamps?

ShanGo
09-18-2009, 11:58 AM
So let me try to get this straight..
You are going to glue in the glass boxes?
The screens hang in the glass boxes?
How does the water get out of the glass boxes? Out thru the holes in the bottom? How do you seal the glass holes to the fiberglass box holes in a functional dependable manner?

How do you get your hand into the inside of the glass boxes to clean their soon to be fouled :mrgreen: inside faces?

You are also going add more acrylic boxes to hold the lamps?
the acrylic box will be removeable and there will be holes at the bottom with tank connections for the outlets
the lamps will be in the fiberglass box to clean the box all i do is lift it out both of them

ShanGo
10-10-2009, 09:18 AM
ok sat down today and did some work tell what you think

ShanGo
10-10-2009, 11:01 AM
plz leave any comments

SantaMonica
10-10-2009, 12:28 PM
Looks to be the beginning of a very strong scrubber.

Can you post a link to those bulbs?

ShanGo
10-10-2009, 12:35 PM
Looks to be the beginning of a very strong scrubber.

Can you post a link to those bulbs?
i got them from work did not pay for them :D

kcress
10-10-2009, 02:49 PM
That looks to be bright enough.. !!!

ShanGo
10-11-2009, 02:11 AM
That looks to be bright enough.. !!!
that picture was taking in the day it was so bright i cant even look in to it

ShanGo
10-11-2009, 06:15 AM
Are you going to put a fan and a ventilation hole?
no i am not as it will only run in the night cold over here lol
and chiller will help out

ShanGo
10-16-2009, 10:27 AM
i am going to start up my scrubber tomorrow as had to get a new pump for it will post pictures of how its going

ShanGo
10-17-2009, 12:28 PM
up and running will post pic tomorrow

ShanGo
10-21-2009, 01:42 PM
i have started scubber on sunday how long before you see growth as mine is just light brown in colour the screen

kcress
10-22-2009, 12:11 PM
Hard to say as there are so many variables.
Flow
Intensity
nutrient levels
tank lighting
tank competition for nutrients
available algae species existing in the tank

Everywhere from about 2 or 3 days to a week to see something.

SantaMonica
10-22-2009, 02:32 PM
Screen roughness is proving to be most important in getting fast growth now, and thick growth later. Followed by strong flow and light.

ShanGo
10-24-2009, 08:57 AM
clean it to day 7 days now this is what it looks like

ShanGo
10-31-2009, 03:36 AM
this is my second week just did a clean tell what you all think

SantaMonica
10-31-2009, 10:26 AM
Looks good.

ShanGo
11-07-2009, 05:19 AM
Hi all this is third week this is what it looks like

ShanGo
11-07-2009, 05:25 AM
i notice that the screen is not as roughed up as i thought will wait on my new one when i clean it all comes off

SantaMonica
11-07-2009, 12:08 PM
Are you removing the screen from the pipe for cleaning? You need to, so that the slot stays open.

ShanGo
11-07-2009, 12:11 PM
no i am not will do the next time

ShanGo
11-07-2009, 12:39 PM
no i am not will do the next time
can i clean the other screen tomorrow ?

Av8bluewater
11-07-2009, 06:11 PM
Looks like a well made scrubber.

SantaMonica
11-07-2009, 07:57 PM
Clean the whole thing this time, and use a toothbrush to clean the slot. Also use the toothbrush to get really clean the part of the screen that goes into the slot; this will make it grow back slower there.

ShanGo
11-08-2009, 08:19 AM
Looks like a well made scrubber.
thanks Av8bluewater

ShanGo
11-08-2009, 09:25 AM
Hi can some one tell me how to use a Salifert Nitrate test kit as i wont to know if i am useing it in the right manner thanks

ShanGo
12-28-2009, 07:53 AM
Hi all long time just had time to start my new screen its 4 days an i am doing a clean
is it ok let me know

ShanGo
12-28-2009, 08:57 AM
Can some one tell me what as these Plz

SantaMonica
12-28-2009, 02:24 PM
Screen growth looks great for 4 days. That's why you want a rough screen... it holds on to algae better, and so it grows faster without letting gow. I'll use that pic as an example of how good a rough screen can grow.

The things you see are Tunicates (or "sea squirts"). They need lots of food particles and flow, and that's what your tank is providing. You should also be able to grow sponges.

ShanGo
12-28-2009, 03:09 PM
Screen growth looks great for 4 days. That's why you want a rough screen... it holds on to algae better, and so it grows faster without letting gow. I'll use that pic as an example of how good a rough screen can grow.

The things you see are Tunicates (or "sea squirts"). They need lots of food particles and flow, and that's what your tank is providing. You should also be able to grow sponges.
Thanks i am going to let it run what type of sponges?

SantaMonica
12-28-2009, 04:25 PM
The typical blue ones are a good start. Put them in the highest flow. And they can't touch the air, not even once.

Red ones can be more trouble.

ShanGo
12-29-2009, 02:34 PM
Santa how often do i clean the screen as it almost full again with green Algae

SantaMonica
12-29-2009, 04:19 PM
7 days

ShanGo
12-30-2009, 03:23 AM
7 days
Ok

ShanGo
01-01-2010, 12:12 PM
Need to ask
i have 2 screens
How do i clean them
1) clean one say today and the next one tomorrow
2)clean one today and the next one next week
the 7days rule
1) means they get clean every 7 days
2) means one screen 7days and the next one 14 days
can some one let me know which one to do ? :?

SantaMonica
01-01-2010, 02:05 PM
Try cleaning one every 5 days. But if they are brown, do 4 or 3 days, until green.

ShanGo
01-02-2010, 05:31 AM
just clean ater 5days Screen 1 2nd week

kcress
01-02-2010, 11:27 AM
Fabulous!!

I'm so jealous.. :twisted:

SantaMonica
01-02-2010, 03:24 PM
Wow that is great. Glad to know that I still know how to make screens.

ShanGo
01-02-2010, 03:41 PM
next screen will be clean tomorrow

ShanGo
01-03-2010, 07:09 AM
2nd Screen 2nd week after 6days

ShanGo
05-05-2010, 12:51 PM
i am having problems getting 270k pl-l lamps 4pin so i am trying 300k ones is that ok ?

rygh
05-05-2010, 01:37 PM
Wow, what a ton of algae.
How large is your tank / bioload?

SantaMonica
05-06-2010, 11:20 AM
Yes 3000k are good

mikepao13
05-07-2010, 02:53 AM
Verry impressive mate..well done - excelent output

i have made my scrubber and its very similar to yours.

Difference is that my box is plasic - painted black on the outside
and the ligths are attached on the side - 8 of them

ill post some pics on a new threat later today... and i hope will work as good as yours cos i have a real problem since i removed my nitrate reactor and phos media :cry:

my dilimma as follows:

cant decide what material to use for the screen

1. a very rought - up plastic one as yours
OR
2. the plastic mesh thing used in this scrubber - see link below...
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=197 (http://www.algaescrubber.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=197)

Vannpytt
05-08-2010, 01:53 AM
Can you please advice where to get the wireing and electric work for that through a webshop? Where I live (top of the globe) you don't get to buy stuff like that for less than a fortune :p

Alternativly, if you please could post the specific names of the parts.

Thanks in advance

ShanGo
05-19-2010, 11:09 AM
Can you please advice where to get the wireing and electric work for that through a webshop? Where I live (top of the globe) you don't get to buy stuff like that for less than a fortune :p

Alternativly, if you please could post the specific names of the parts.

Thanks in advance
sorry for the delay as i was away at work i am a Electrician i got all my bits from work

ShanGo
05-19-2010, 11:10 AM
Verry impressive mate..well done - excelent output

i have made my scrubber and its very similar to yours.

Difference is that my box is plasic - painted black on the outside
and the ligths are attached on the side - 8 of them

ill post some pics on a new threat later today... and i hope will work as good as yours cos i have a real problem since i removed my nitrate reactor and phos media :cry:

my dilimma as follows:

cant decide what material to use for the screen

1. a very rought - up plastic one as yours
OR
2. the plastic mesh thing used in this scrubber - see link below...
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=197 (http://www.algaescrubber.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=197)
i bought my screen from Santa

ShanGo
05-19-2010, 11:13 AM
Wow, what a ton of algae.
How large is your tank / bioload?
L54ins W33ins H28ins i just use a Scrubber i feed my fish 4cube of brine shimps and auto feed .06 ml a hour of oster relish
N 0
p 0

ShanGo
06-08-2010, 09:12 AM
have a problem these brown things keep coming on screen and then it goes in main tank
does any one knows y and it has a high smell to it
when you start cleaning in as if its will knock you out i have to get fresh air so strong just start doing it
the main tank has brown hair alage in it when i clean the screen it goes in 4-5 days the scrren has this brown coat on it as in picture

SantaMonica
06-08-2010, 10:53 AM
Try adding some iron, like Kent's Iron + Manganese. Should make the yellow turn green.

You don't want to increase flow if the screen is already letting go of things.

ShanGo
06-08-2010, 11:47 AM
i see these growing on my rocks do you know y please

SantaMonica
06-08-2010, 06:44 PM
Can't tell what they are. But they are sure to go away with the rest of the nuisance algae.

mikepao13
07-05-2010, 09:39 AM
Hi mate,

Whats going on with your ATS?

Is everything ok?

Are u happy with ur lights?

ShanGo
07-12-2010, 09:50 AM
Hi mate,

Whats going on with your ATS?

Is everything ok?

Are u happy with ur lights?
my ATS is ok
i like the 2700k better than the 3000k
going to change them over
i had a accient with my sump something fell of the shelf and broke it so had to buy a new one
thats y i did not reply to this, got it up and running this weekend will post some pictures as soon as
i have abit of time and thanks for asking M8

mikepao13
07-30-2010, 11:25 AM
I really liked your lights.

Please give me some info on them.

ShanGo
07-30-2010, 11:30 AM
I really liked your lights.

Please give me some info on them.
they are PL-L 2700k 24watt 4pin
http://gbbulbs.co.uk/cgi-bin/sh000001.p ... 1205#a1205 (http://gbbulbs.co.uk/cgi-bin/sh000001.pl?REFPAGE=http%3a%2f%2fgbbulbs.co.uk%2fc gi-bin%2fss000001.pl%3fpage%3dsearch%26SS%3dpl-l%20%26search.x%3d10%26search.y%3d7%26search%3dACT ION%26PR%3d-1%26TB%3dA&WD=pl&PN=Biax_L__Dulux_L__PL-L_24w_827__very_warm_white__4pin_2G11.html%23a1205 #a1205)

mikepao13
07-30-2010, 02:45 PM
Thanks ShanGo,

I have a friend thats an electrician and i will show him the bulbs and he will also do the elecrical part on my new setup. Whats the other things attached to the out side called?

Im planning to use 4 x 54watts 4 pin bulbs on my 18inch x 12inch screen (2 on each side).

ShanGo
08-01-2010, 02:04 AM
Thanks ShanGo,

I have a friend thats an electrician and i will show him the bulbs and he will also do the elecrical part on my new setup. Whats the other things attached to the out side called?

Im planning to use 4 x 54watts 4 pin bulbs on my 18inch x 12inch screen (2 on each side).
The things on the out side is the ballast, one of them takes two lamps
http://www.bltdirect.com/product.php?pi ... 39+Ballast (http://www.bltdirect.com/product.php?pid=22804&cat=497&nm=Osram+High+Frequency+QTI+Twin+14%2F24%2F21%2F39 +Ballast)

mikepao13
08-02-2010, 03:05 PM
Thanks a lot man.

Do you use any fans for the ATS?

ShanGo
08-03-2010, 10:13 AM
Thanks a lot man.

Do you use any fans for the ATS?
no i do not as i have a chiller on my system

mikepao13
09-04-2010, 04:02 AM
Hi there,

Any pics of the growth?

ShanGo
09-06-2010, 01:51 AM
Hi there,

Any pics of the growth?
i just cleaned yesterday when i clean again will take a picture ;)

mikepao13
09-08-2010, 10:14 AM
Are you happy with your ATS?

Are you getting the results you want?

As already said im trying to figure the best possible design for my system. Im between the lights you are using and HOT5 but the problem with them is that i cannot find any stronger than 24watts 60cm.

Any suggestions / advice?

ShanGo
09-09-2010, 09:28 AM
Are you happy with your ATS?

Are you getting the results you want?

As already said im trying to figure the best possible design for my system. Im between the lights you are using and HOT5 but the problem with them is that i cannot find any stronger than 24watts 60cm.

Any suggestions / advice?
i am happy with my ATS and the results
where are you from UK if so i can give you a link for the lamps i have

mikepao13
09-10-2010, 09:27 AM
I live in Cyprus mate. Please send some links anw to see.

ShanGo
09-10-2010, 10:41 AM
I live in Cyprus mate. Please send some links anw to see.
here is a link http://www.lampspecs.co.uk/Light-Bulbs-Tubes/Long-2G11

ShanGo
10-02-2010, 07:24 AM
I have separate my 2 screens using just 1 screen per scrubber now will see what happens as when the light comes on it get dusty ;)