Can i have the screen bottom submerged in display tank?

[Regalms]

why not have the screen return /bottom , above water level in main display and eliminate the bucket entirely

I am aware that the lighting will not be isolated and tank will remain lit longer than usual

this is currently my setup .as my wife does not want anythinh especially a bucket above my sumpless tank

[SantaMonica]

You can put a scrubber anywhere as long as the guidlines for light, flow, and size are followed. From what I can see, yours will not work becasue the lights are too far away, are not pointed at the screen, the screen is too small (and is one-sided, and only the part above water counts), and the clear pipe will fill with algae and block the flow. Check the pics of other designs... there are a few that have some in-hood designs that may work. Or just build an acrylic version that looks nice.

[Regalms]

thanks for the reply
thaTS WHY YOU GUYS ARE THE SPECIALISTS
i realise that the clear pipe was a mistake (good pickup)
i will use a non-transparent tube (PVC type ,white will do)

I should also get a CFL pointed at the screen

I should also go double sided

I there a design like this that has been done before in anyones knowledge

I think there is a place for it for anyone who is sumpless and has height restrictions above his main display tank

I cannot go with a hood design as i do not have a hood
maybe a gutter/trough set up will be the best way forward

my tank is 92cm by 34 cm by 34 cm
which is aboutr twenty gallons
the screen is a bit small but i thought with all the additinal filtration i have going it will work

but what do i know?
all feedback will be apreciated
stoked to finally become part of a discussion afet hour of reading others discusions

[Regalms]

Surprisingly i am seein growth on the screen on day five i am still gonna run the screen and use it to seed my trough type scrubber

[SantaMonica]

Try a horizontal design, 4 X 20. It will pick up more of the light, and will fit flat on top of the tank.

The growth you are getting now will not do anything, filter-wise.

[Regalms]

Good day
what an honour to interface with the legendary santa monica all the way here from south africa

if is not a lot to ask can you please reference the 4x20 design for my above display tank design
a link will do or thread and post number
(i read the one with the wooden box trough as well as the cement screen type)

i can confirm it just looks like cyano on me green wit ha little bit of green

once again thank you ,i really commend the pro bono good work you are doing

I have spent such a lot of money on my system and am still seeing phosphates (light blue on salifert)

my nitrates are being kept in check with water changes (30% weekly)

[SantaMonica]

Welcome to filter land :)

Try something like this:
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=72&p=398&hilit=nano#p398 (http://www.algaescrubber.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=72&p=398&hilit=nano#p398)
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=144&p=1002&hilit=nano#p1002 (http://www.algaescrubber.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=144&p=1002&hilit=nano#p1002)

And look here for more design ideas:
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=26 (http://www.algaescrubber.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=26)

If cyano is on your screen, you need more light.

[Regalms]

Good day
I have manufactured my upgrade as follows
3,5 lire tupperware bucket
25 watt par 38
3,500K 5 lumins CFL spot light
(equivalent to 100watt)
1 cm from screen
r
unning 24 hrs a day

the screen is 15cm wide x30 cm long

[SantaMonica]

Pull the light back to 10cm. Put the light on a timer for 18 hours a day.

[Regalms]

will do
but what do you think about the design
i think it is a low cost option for the sumpless guys

[SantaMonica]

Should be good for a 25 gal tank.

[Regalms]

I must buy a timer is the six off hours at night or during the day

[Regalms]

Should the six hours that the light is off be at night or in the day

[SantaMonica]

Does not matter, as far as filtering goes.

[Regalms]

Great stuff i will then have it off at night as it is better for the corals for normal day and night simulation

[Regalms]

I have modified again now i have both vertical and horizontal as the vert is drainin into the hori

[Regalms]

I also bought purigen and stability to aid scrubber .cleaned for the third time today and only have green algae left on screen nitrates at ten best ive seen in a while reset timer to two on one off

[Regalms]

here are the pics of the dual scrubber vertical and horizontal

[Regalms]

more pics

[Regalms]

more pics

[Regalms]

more pics

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more pics

[SantaMonica]

That clear pipe is going to grow algae inside and clog up. Replace it with an opaque pipe. Also move the light further back.

[Regalms]

I am working on a shield or cover i am just scrubbing it with a toothbrush when i clean my screen i like the fact that i can see the water level inside i am working on a small fish tank for the permanent setup 0ther than the opaque pipe and the light movin back what do you think

[Regalms]

What i actually meant was the screen growth ??? Am i starting to grow the right algae!!
Even my wife cant wait for the reply

[SantaMonica]

All algae is good. Just the more, the better. Yours seems to have a good start.

[Regalms]

Thanks for the reply i have moved light ten centimetres away from screen and am on day three of testing no3 po4 havent seen much change as yet will update soon i cant wait to see zero nitrate and phosphate my lfs has a plating montipora that they are keepin for me till my nutrients decrease

[Regalms]

I cant believe it works tested water tonight and the nitrates are almost gone phosphates are at two i am so stoked it took about six weeks to go from offscale high to near clear on salifert

[Regalms]

Nitrates zero for 6 days allready and phosphates one on salifert
after weekly cleanin of ats the turf comes back so quickly
i cant believe it
it works