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    Cool! Thanks. And to do 2 sides I just throw on a mirror or 2 for reflectors and add another light? And does a scrubber replace a refugium? I would need to take all the rock out of my sump to use a scrubber. Does the scrubber replace all other gear besides my Skimmer? Can I change my sump to just having a drain, Skimmer, and scrubber and not use the refugium?.
    My fish swam away with my 401k, lol

    Bob

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    Quote Originally Posted by herring_fish View Post
    I'm not tying to start and argument. I have a similar mind as well. I was just wondering then.
    I made my test scrubber in the beginning of February And posted my video on Utube one month after growth in March.

    Forgive me if I offended you, but your when with a Question mark ( When?) ... Looked like a prove it to me question....That's the thing about typing it can be taken this way or that way...

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    2-sided is always better, preferrably with a light; second best is a reflector.

    Replaces a fuge. Leave the rock in. Replaces all other including the skimmer.

    My fav sump is no sump.

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    Are the new scrubbers for sale anywhere? Is anybody building algae scrubbers to sell?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ruddybop View Post
    It doesn't matter when ... I just think it's neat that SM,s design and mine are similar and him and I didn't do any communication together until I posted a Vid on Monsterfishkeepers.

    I'm not here to start an argument....SM has the patent on it anyway...Congrats SM.....cheers....
    I am certainly no patent attorney but I would bet his patent would not hold up in court/re-examination since the design was posted on this very forum 2 years before SM announced it and it appears other people have patents for similar ideas. I am very curious to actually read Santa Monica's patent to see exactly what he was able to get a patent on.

    Look at this thread by herring_fish from November 2009 and tell me that isn't the same idea as the UAS.
    http://algaescrubber.net/forums/show...ut-Green-Water
    Quote Originally Posted by herring_fish View Post
    11-4-2009: How about the old algae scrubber in a simpler form?

    Off the top of my head, my first design ideas starts with a small to medium tank. I would add a removable black plastic plate about 2 or 3 inches from and parallel to the glass at the end of the tank.

    It would go from front to back but would not reach the bottom and not go all the way to the water level. A bubble bar, place between the plate and the glass would forms a wall of bubbles that should cause a gentle role of the water in the tank and should agitate the algae strands to break down the boundary layers. Hopefully this would increase the efficiency of the algal growth and nutrient uptake.

    When I do a patent search I see quite a few different people having patents on algae type filters. As an example here is one I found when I was searching for patents for the idea I had for a HOB Super UAS filter. This patent was filed in 2008.
    http://www.google.com/patents/US7682503
    https://www.google.com/search?tbm=pt...e+filter&btnG=

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    Reminder that mine are pending, not issued.

    Nevertheless the folks in-the-know have interesting ways of drafting claims in view of the prior art landscape. I have a hard enough time just explaining to them what I want BTW, Joe Norris is a member here.
    Last edited by SantaMonica; 08-12-2012 at 06:28 AM.

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    [QUOTE=Ace25;21490]I am certainly no patent attorney but I would bet his patent would not hold up in court/re-examination since the design was posted on this very forum 2 years before SM announced it and it appears other people have patents for similar ideas. I am very curious to actually read Santa Monica's patent to see exactly what he was able to get a patent on.

    Yes it would be interesting to see SM,s Patent request... I made a spinning Algae Scrubber in my 10 gallon just experimenting around. I did a search and a similar one has a patent on it.
    http://www.google.com/patents?id=EUI...page&q&f=false

    Not that I'm trying to patent my ideas. I just want my fish healthy with the easiest/cost effective way....

    Look at this thread by herring_fish from November 2009 and tell me that isn't the same idea as the UAS.
    http://algaescrubber.net/forums/show...ut-Green-Water

    And Herring_Fish did you try your idea even though SM had doubts with it in the beginning. That would have encouraged me to try it...
    And if you did try it how did it work...


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    Take a look at this one ruddy looks like the old aquariacare company were onto the wheel design also.

    http://www.google.com/patents?id=Jps...filter&f=false

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    Quote Originally Posted by WAK View Post
    Take a look at this one ruddy looks like the old aquariacare company were onto the wheel design also.

    http://www.google.com/patents?id=Jps...filter&f=false
    Yes... I just saw that one this morning and told the wife that my motorized design was already made and had a patent.... That patent uses the same gear pattern that I also came up with.

    Funny how most of our/peoples ideas have already been thought up...

    Wonder why none of these are out for sale at fish stores......

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    Yes, with the amount of patents on the filters i wonder why its never gone mainstream

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